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If your vet can’t find anything in the back, SI, feet and/or lower legs, then it’s possible the problem might be in deeper core and deeper groin muscles of the body, along with tension or torque on the sacroiliac joints. I’ve tried to squat down before placing him on my shoulder, and doing nothing (or air gap) as far as pressure, I’ve tried air gap pressure to his temple and jaw, etc. Sign in with your Netflix account to watch instantly on the web at netflix.com from your personal computer or on any internet-connected device that offers the Netflix app, including smart TVs, smartphones, tablets, streaming media players and … This doesn’t address the actual reason for your post, but at least you might be able to parse out the problem with Cyndi. . In the “Dressage Movements Revealed” when Jim was working on the lumbar area and the horse was giving pain reactions, is where my question is directed. A fracture can cause Sweeney shoulder. This was the 3rd time that I worked on her. Do you have any specific techniques or advice for horses that have sustained nerve damage and as a consequence have poor proprioceptive and are not using correct muscles for the job. Also toys and stall objects to occupy their time. She is very one sided and will not push up against the bit on that one side. He will have more circulation in the area from the work you did. It is very enjoyable. She has lumber pain and has shown a lack of forward movement when ridden, won’t leave walk to trot comfortably and definitely won’t canter. So that usually means start working on them 3-4 weeks before the race they’re being pointed towards. It didn’t matter if it was a graded stakes horse or a bottom-of-the-barrel, non-winner-of-a-Ham-Sandwich Claimer. While I am not a vet or neurologist or anything like that, I did have a recent experience that was similar and prompted me to get expert opinion from my vet. Injuries to the shoulder causing nerve damage were common enough in the past to be given a name; “Sweeney”. Thank you for your time. Then she bit me in a place I would never show in public. You’ve got her relaxing at the poll, and doing well with the lateral flexion. I didn’t know horses were so sensitive to your touch…I would like to know a few things. Clearly – this was his way of saying that’s enough, right? Why are my dressage horse's pectoral muscles sore? Cyndi Hill wrote an interesting piece on a mare that is incredibly reactive with biting and I thought it interesting. You want to put that information together with other signs that there might be front foot pain, such as atlas/poll pain on that same side, and possibly tightness or soreness on the hind diagonal, to get a more accurate possibility (how’s that for a concept! Hope this long-winded answer helps. It’s great that you are using Masterson Method on this horse, obviously he has some issues to be so defensive. -Many choices for ambient & alarm clock sounds. Although sometimes just stroking her neck can cause her to start the deep whinny. I have heard different schools of thought on whether a horse should have: Some feed at dinner or breakfast or none, or a full meal prior to body work.  My thought process is that the animal’s blood flow would be directed toward digestion rather than new blood flow heading toward the areas that healing/work is occurring… Does it matter? Sometimes if I have a horse that wants to stretch, I hold them under the “knee” and let them drop the lower leg and let it relax and then bring it down. I think I will work around the sacrum and hips, and try the neck and hocks again later? I usually let the horse eat, if we are interrupted by feeding time. If you can get the horse trusting enough to begin releasing tension without even touching him as with the bladder meridian, then you can get his nervous system to begin releasing tension without touching him, without the bladder meridian! I’ve tried messaging around the poll VERY gently while holding his head in my arm and he does not like that. With SBs you can get away with a lot more. The more experience with horses we have, the more effort we have put into understanding them and their way rather than thinking about how they fit into our plan, the faster we will learn to accurately read the language of the horses responses to our touch. So how do you treat them? Can The Masterson Method help with a pony that's not eating well? Speak to your vet to see what next steps may be taken. If you just stay with what you are doing, they will usually release soon after turning away. It’s better not to work on the horse more than two times a week. As for canine Masterson Method…..if we could just get Jim to sit long enough to write something! When a horse is sore in his feet, he uses these muscles more to stabilize his leg into a position that is most comfortable to him. He’s now able to walk in a straight line when riding instead of allll over the place. Thanks for contacting us and if you are familiar with The Masterson Method (MM) at all you know that this can provide relief for a horse ins so many ways. Take a look at the Training Video Clips here on the website as I have posted a clip called the “Bladder Meridian” which addresses some questions that are often asked. release pain and tension in the body associated with these. I wouldn’t put any meaning to the responses if he doesn’t. I think the RN in me wanted to heal him more than sell him. I was going to suggest you attend a 2 day seminar but you beat me to it, another thing you could do is call out a Masterson Method practitioner to do a session on your horse, this will not only give you a one to one over view of the techniques but you would get some great tips about how to improve what you know already.  They would help you with your head up too. The horse will likely have tension up in the poll from front foot soreness (everything shows up in the poll) but that is not where I would start. Has been checked for kissing spine but clear. You may be thinking that we are asking for large changes and stretching the front leg. Spend as much time on the hind end top points as you can to help relieve the back area and this will also affect the front end as well as it’s all connected. I am concerned that I have “overcooked” things and that he has just “learnt” a response without actually reaping any of the benefits. I take my time letting him stretch. She is my one true love and I can’t seem to help her! Stress release. I do the TMJ before and after every ride and my horse responds similarly and then closes her eyes and lowers her head. Could I have misread it for something else? I recommend you get that if this is the case. First question, can you do any kind of work on her right side? The point to remember is that you need to be conscious of what you are doing with your hands and with your body position and posture in general. If you do this long enough, and soft enough, you will by-pass the horse’s ability to hold the tension, and his body will have to respond and release. His spine has been X-rayed. Not knowing much about tying up, I was reluctant to do anything aggressive. I have the book and DVD and have been practicing on a few of my horses. to do her all over, I was doing her for some other people, my question is, by the time I had got to her mid back and hind quarters she was what seemed bored and unfocused- she had amazing releases in the front! So trying to do the poll work is difficult. Of course, you’ll want to remove hay from the stall while you are working and may want to let the horse finish his grain if you show up at a barn during feeding time. Are there specific things that could be done to address her possible TMJ problem? Meaning they turn their head away like they are looking at something. What’s your advice please? Jim suggested that you definitely start with the less painful places – that’s always the smart move. I would continue to work on him and see if you can get past his defensiveness by remaining very soft and slow to stay under the “radar” of his protectiveness. Why would my off the track Thoroughbred resist head up? Completed the session. However, radial nerves will repair if given enough time; the main thing to do is to support the opposite leg while the injured leg is not being used, as the horse is frequently lost due to the support leg failing during the healing process. Had an equine dentist out today and xrays show her left tmj joint appears to be fusing, very arthritic, worse she’s ever seen. If we do this long enough, then the horse’s parasympathetic nervous system starts to take over (rest/recovery/healing) and the horse let’s go of the tension and licks and chews. It could take up to three days. It doesn’t mean you’re not getting stuff out; it’s just that they are not rewarding you, with the more visible signs of release. Watch Netflix on your smartphone, tablet, Smart TV, laptop, or streaming device, all for one fixed monthly fee. If you start asking for work too soon, the tension will return. My horse has recently started to drop his front left shoulder on canter. The muscles will be screaming and in desperate need for help. When the horse stops giving you responses, then his nervous system needs a break or there is nothing more there to release. When I started to work on her, I was surprised that she has so much lateral flexibility in her neck. It starts with quick, strong trembling of the area – like when a fly is bugging her – and then immediately progresses to a strong, full body shiver. My mare sweats around an injured shoulder during bodywork. Respect that. Sorry you got bit, but that’s some of the hazards of working with horses and some of this could just be attitude. He was moving around a lot a grinding his teeth. The bite threats usually go with her ‘don’t-touch-me-there’ front end areas. Nerves can regenerate, however, in severe cases it may take more than a year or perhaps, not at all. 3 days before is still my minimum unless I have worked on the horse extensively and the driver said the horse trained great the next day. I got a couple of yawns then she became very agitated; pawing the ground, bending her front leg as if to kneel down, gaping her mouth, biting the lead rope, trying to walk off. I am not writing this to make you wrong…but to slightly shift the awareness to what the horse needs without any determination of what “should” be done. In the MM “less is more and softer and lighter.” So you are seeing how effective the technique is. SBs are trotting and pacing much faster than they did a few decades ago. My horse became VERY sensitive to touch. When something has been stuck for a long time, and is released, the nervous system takes time to reorganize. Thanks a lot for your help! It has healed and the hair is growing back. A full rollback type move to the left is the only time it surfaces. The bodyworker feels the rope walking will correct, the vet doesn’t think it will…what is your thought?? SCENARIO for a horse that has always been sound, supple, energetic and athletic, and is still visibly sound in his movement, but with known physical issues: Has club foot on RF (right front). You may have noticed with the Bladder Meridian exercise that we are doing very little, and the horse is doing all the releasing. The short answer is to go by what the horse is telling you. My summary of working on Albertus Maximus before his Breeder’s Cup win that I wrote for Jim’s Blog summarizes this process. Another note is that while big releases can happen anywhere on the body, often the rear is slightly less reactive, especially in some breeds like draft, and ponies. (Don’t want to start something you can’t stop!) If not, move on. For e.g. If you do have an MMCP come out to work on her let me know how it goes. When encountering a horse that is resistant to lateral rocking I want to make sure I did all I could to release tension in the lumbar section by working with the release points and getting as much ‘torque’ in a relaxed state as possible. Thank you. As we are so non-invasive I cannot see why, maybe we can cause bleeding as we stimulate the blood circulation, but we also cause relaxation which lowers acid levels …your thoughts please. Horses that are very strong survivors don’t want to show the releases. While horses tend to carry 60 to 65% of their weight on the front end, a horse with sore front feet is going to try to shift that weight to the hind end and he will likely have some restriction over the sacrum . If you feel like the shaking is too much for her you can back your hand away as you near the areas where she is most reactive, or before she starts really shaking. It’s almost like the tingling you feel when your foot falls asleep and the circulation starts back. Would there be another meaning for this point? Cheers They have tried chiropractic, acupuncture, etc and now want to try The Masterson Method. If you believe it can be reversed what other exercises can I do to build up those muscles to keep the foot going straight. She comes at me, ears back, rearing shaking her head. Shake your hands once in a while to make sure they are soft, and remind your body to be soft too! I ride at a school once a week and lucky for me the owner has allowed me to practice Masterson Method on her horses. Take it easy on yourself. I have to mention that when I started the MM, I sensed a friendly skepticism among some around the barn. You will find the reactive areas are where he is carrying tension and stress which would indicate something there has causes pain and/or restriction. After doing the first equine bodywork session and getting good responses, how often can it be repeated? Palpate again to see if you can find anything that stands out. Thanks for your help! His instincts have told him to cover up and even block it out pain, but once we bring his attention back to it in a way that doesn’t excite the survival/bracing response, then it probably feels pretty good to him to let it go. I would be really grateful if you could point me in the right direction. You are finding her “stuff” that she has been compensating for – so as to not show pain. Jim says that of what you do and the horses responses while doing the Bladder Meridian in direct response to your touch. If neither of these happens, and if she shows no discomfort afterwards, then I think releasing this tension is probably making her more comfortable. I feel it’s something deep? I have a 9 year old TB gelding that had a major injury to his shoulder when he was younger, I have had him for 4 years and the scar has been there since before I owned him. Have you seen this and had any success correcting it with your bodywork? I don’t know. Question: He would stick his tongue as far out of his mouth as possible, tilt his head to the side and swing his tongue around. The Gel state is when the tissues are firm and tends to be cooler, the Sol state is when the tissues are more pliable and tend to be warmer. Bringing her front leg forward was easier for her, and there was a bigger range of motion, but once again, she could not comfortably hold it. If your horse needs to be ridden, give him as easy a ride as possible. If you take a look at the two articles below you’ll find some more information on what has worked for me in the past:  (look under Articles in this website and search for Mystery Lameness). Once a week is enough, and making sure to give the horse a day off to relax and feel the changes. I had a session with our 5 year old unbroken gelding yesterday and am not sure whether his response was so dramatic because the tension starting to release felt really weird to him and he didn’t know how to deal with it, or because my timing was off, or something else. You might see if you can get even closer using the Bladder Meridian as stress in the horse is like an onion, you take off layers at a time. It’s the law. He has a nice round jump on single jumps but battles a bit with related distances as if stiffer. If your farrier is like mine, he appreciates a horse that is easy to get around. You have mentioned the connection between persistent reactions to the girth area and neck/shoulder areas to pain in the front feet. Isn’t it exciting to see the changes first hand? I really appreciate your philosophy and approach regarding horses wellness. However, if you have recently started working the half pass with your horse, or stepped up the amount of work you do at the half pass, the pectoral muscles of the chest can be sore due to the increased use of these muscles in the half pass. Was wondering if Jim believes if a horse started this, rope walking, with one leg in the back can it be reversed? Some horses require adjustment in what we do, or how we do it, so good job. We also have techniques that restore range of motion of the most important junctions of the body: the poll, the neck, the shoulders, the hind legs. She has improved greatly but on occasion she still cocks her jaw (always to the same side) and will completely let go of bit. Most massage technicians find that after learning The Masterson Method, they rarely use any other modality. I stayed for maybe 10 seconds, then kept going and stayed short times here and there around the hip, and then after that he turned back forward and was chewing and then started eating hay off the ground. If it’s a new horse that you don’t know, especially someone else, it is better to do it a few days ahead of time the first time. You’re making big changes, and your pony’s nervous system needs time to process the changes between sessions. The horse’s spine as such is rather inflexible; most flexibility comes from the lumbar area. She did have an accident a few years back that may have caused this but I can’t be for sure. 3 of the horses do this nippy thing, To describe the action- after noting a response, then do the hold, the horse gets fidgety then turn head towards me, wanting to nip whatever part of my body is closest, as I avoid they then nip themselves on flank, chest or leg. If so, let him stay there and watch to see if he has dropped his shoulder, you should be able to tell if he is holding his leg forward. But just to help you out for now it is important to remember that the goal of head up is not to get the head up …… it is to get the horse to relax the weight of their head on your arm or shoulder to help them release tension in the poll, as they relax the weight of their head the muscles behind the ears shorten and soften, then once they are comfortable you can ask for a little movement in a relaxed state by lifting the chin a little.  If you find your horse braces when you ask for movement it is because they are not relaxed enough, to help them out there are 4 things you can do while the horses head is resting on your arm or shoulder. We are at the point of stepping over poles, I ride her for 15 minutes bareback and I hand walk her up a small incline. 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